Walt Disney Studios. That's all. 1 – Rey was introduced during a dull period in her life. Luke powers up his male, blonde, blue-eyed Aryan perfection aura while Rey uses the popular will of all women for her ultimate Femicommunist attack. (he progressively gets darker as the show continues). Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Kylo Ren vs. Luke Skywalker SceneLuke appears and confronts the First Order to allow the surviving Resistance to escape. Luke and Rey were shown as being lower class workers in desert planets, and both of them had a youthful appeal. Maz Kanata offers Luke Skywalker's old lightsaber to Rey. Rey vs Luke Skywalker # Luke Skywalker And Luke in ESB was already a threat to Vader who could surprise him several times, Vader as a Jedi had more and superior training to both of them. None of this seems to apply to Rey, who can just do anything when the time comes for it. 'Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker' photos show Luke Skywalker, Rey vs. Kylo Ren, new snow planet and a look behind the scenes Vanity Fair released new behind-the-scenes photos from the set of the ninth “Star Wars” film, including new characters, veterans and new worlds. The son of famous Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, he was left on Tatooine with his aunt and uncle after the fall of the Jedi Order. Thanks and have fun. Marvel's Rise of Skywalker prequel comic confirms that, based on her present skill-set, Rey's already surpassed Anakin and Luke Skywalker as a Jedi. Before his birth, Luke Skywalker was the subject of several prophecies. She can do anything, and do it well, first time: Master an unfamiliar space ship and inherently know all its maneuvering capabilities, use a blaster with pinpoint accuracy the first time she uses it, swish and flick a light sword like a pro against a trained Sith, and anything else that needs doing. Rey does not have that arc. "Rey finally knows where she belongs, and has adopted the name Skywalker to honor her Masters." She’d spoken with Han about the Force, and had to listen to the mutterings of Maz Kanata—that was the extent of her training in the Force. unbelievable. As a result, Luke Skywalker uses the last of his life energy and dies, becoming one with the Force. Change members Create variation Info No Variations. In TLJ, Kylo Ren asks her to join the dark side. Rey learns her grandpa was evil, I guess? Thank you and May the Force Salt Be With You! Kylo in his TIE tries to run her over but she backflips over it and cut off one wing with her saber. In his X-wing, Luke blinds himself, with Obi-Wan's guidance from beyond the grave, forcing him to rely on the Force to guide his actions. 7 Basic Plots and How to Make Them Sound Original, Stripped the character of meaningful familial connections, Made him female (because Hollywood knows this technique automatically forces viewers to appreciate the MC, or else risk being viewed as misogynistic), Relieved him of a smoldering deep-seated frustration with the galaxy. The guy with the highest midichlorian count.. Who said Anakin has the most potential? Description: Luke Skywalker and Rey is part of Artist Collection and its available for Desktop Laptop PC and Mobile Screen. So right as it took off rey is force pulling the fucking ship back. After an afternoon of lessons meant to dissuade her of the Jedi's necessity, she beats the guards and lifts countless rocks. After a while, we even begin to view the world through fresh eyes; no longer does everything bother us. So she does and they fly away... New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the saltierthancrait community. This is shown brilliantly and movingly when he faces off against Shelob. . STAR WARS 8 hero Rey is still missing her parents but the popular theories about Luke or Han Solo and Kyra don’t add up. Besides the number of years you've been training for is irrelevant, Obi Wan and Dooku had more training than Anakin but Anakin was still comparable to them. She can use force lighting (by accident somehow) despite it being a very powerful force, and something that is a dark side power, as it requires drawing upon anger/dark side to use. Remember, while STC is a community for discussion and critique, it is also peppered with satire. It was granted to all players for free. Without them, it is nearly impossible to create a believable character. On the contrary, Disney intentionally wrote Rey the way it did, knowing full well that audiences today prefer to be entertained by mindless action and beautiful plotholes rather than to enjoy movies that cleverly unfold, movies filled with characters that develop naturally, making them more realistic and therefore relatable. There's no real temptation to join the Dark Side. Finding himself apprenticed to the Jedi Masters Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda, he soon becomes an important figure in the Rebel Alliance's struggle against the Galactic Empire. 1 – Rey was introduced during a dull period in her life. Wait a second, if Boba Fett is alive, why in tarnation did they serve up a Solo origin story instead of a Fett solo run? We can take everything and use it as a lesson to hone our craft. Saltier Than Crait (STC) is a community of Star Wars fans who want to engage in critical discussion of the franchise. The other two victories are moral victories. After a year of training with Leia, Rey beats Palpatine. He suffered when they were killed. When we see Rey climb into the beloved Millennium Falcon (after calling it a piece of trash) and fly it like an old hand to save Finn, we are not amused or impressed. Harry Potter doesn’t have a hope in Hogwarts of defeating Voldemort, unless he first learns all manner of magical defense against the dark arts. None of that is a Jedi, that's a fucking sith. She claims to be "all the Jedi" when she frequently draws upon anger in battle, has used sith lightning, killed someone who turned around and dropped their weapon, and more. Because we knew early on that Luke was a capable pilot, we are not left bamboozled as to how he was later able to execute that perfect Meridian Trench proton torpedo run (with the help of the Force, of course). “You manbaby dudebros just want ElderGod Luke. Rey doesn’t suffer. Rey beats Kylo Ren without any training or any real lesson about how to use the Force. He is the protagonist of the originaltrilogy and one of thesecondary protagonists in the sequel trilogy. The Star Wars Prequel Trilogy vs The Star Wars Original Trilogy! He then disarms himself, choosing to accept whatever fate the Emperor bestows upon him, and wait for the Rebels to blow up the Death Star and everyone on it. Sure, Rey used the force to escape that telepathic/chair thing and fight Kylo Ren, but there was no foreshadowing involved, and, more importantly, no training. Her victories aren't really moral ones. Because he does so using the dark side of the Force. Luke has one victory that can be attributed to skill/power, which is basically an extension of a specific lesson already learnt. Early in LOTR, Sam is shown to be a smidgen intimidated around Rose Cotton. This argument came up with one of my friends earlier today. She literally can't fail, because when she does "fail" she wins even more. Luke wields his original blue lightsaber to fight Kylo Ren in their final battle. He sees what Rey is doing and tries to release the transporter ship with his force, rey has to focus a little bit more to hold the ship and accedently blows it up by using force lightning. You hate to see it. The sequel trilogies are bad movies on their own, but they can't be so easily ignored when they're part of this now-neverending franchise. Rise of Skywalker Prequel Proves Rey Is a Better Jedi Than Anakin or Luke. The FO is about to catch up and rey senses Kylo. His piloting skill is foreshadowed early on, in the cantina on Tatooine. Luke vs Rey, a point-by-point comparison ... Moisture farmer; actually Anakin Skywalker and Queen Amidala’s kid, adopted by a family on Tattooine, a desert planet, for his own protection. Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Luke does not start off as a hero. Anakin may be the Chosen One, but can he survive a match against his successor! Foreshadowing is the art of subtly informing your readers (or watchers) that something now will be important later on in the tale. Then in Jedi, Luke is overwhelmed by anger at Vader, beats him down and cuts off his hand, before realizing what he's doing. Unfortunately for insightful viewers who like their heroes to be intelligently written, to have depth, Disney decided to forgo any character development when it came to Rey. Luke Skywalker & Darth Maul vs Rey & Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) Created by DarthNihilus003. But unlike Sam, she doesn’t develop a biased/funny rapport with a despicable character—Gollum—and she does not enjoy the essential ‘arc’, that is, character development. Luke loses his aunt and uncle. Finn tells rey to get on board. Remember: We are looking at them through writer’s eyes, with all the attendant biases and judgments and experiences as big time readers and experienced word-slingers. Rey beats Kylo Ren without any training or any real lesson about how to use the Force. Events did not shape her, because (as was shown ad nauseum) she already possessed the capacity for mastering every known ability and skill in the galaxy instantaneously. He loses his hand, and he only escapes because he's willing to fall to what could easily be his own death. Rey Skywalker (born Rey Palpatine) is the main protagonist of theStar Wars sequel trilogy as a whole. In the Battle of Crait, Luke Skywalker and Kylo Ren face off head-to-head, and Luke ultimately saves the Resistance and stops his nephew from taking over the galaxy. He achieves this by using the exact same lesson Obi-Wan taught him him on the Falcon. She walks away from the ship and just stands there. So remember, as a writer you can enjoy your movies, but you can also improve your craft if you pay attention to what makes some characters great, and what makes others . That's about it. Disney knows its audience well—because it spent years creating its audience, an audience tailor-made to receive shallow, undeserving star characters as their modern heroes. They both destroy each other out alongside the rest of Star Wars and absolutely no one wins. Elected to gift her with the ability to instantaneously master every known skill. and she fucking destroys it with LIGHTNING. But only one main protagonist can come out alive! Because she perfect, it is very difficult for anyone over 12 to truly relate to Rey. Rey/Luke Skywalker; Rey & Luke Skywalker; Rey (Star Wars) Luke Skywalker; Eventual Romance; Post-Star Wars: The Last Jedi; Almost Kiss; Summary. And she knows Wookie! Grabbing a ship ROCKETING in the opposite direction with less effort than Master Yoda took to move some rocks. In A New Hope, Luke is victorious through using the Force to blow up the Death Star. Then, in Jedi, after some more training alone, Luke defeats Vader. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker gave Rey what Mark Hamill always wanted for Luke Skywalker. As writers, the lesson here is clear: Your MC must earn her powers, usually through practice and sacrifice, suffering and failure. It's father versus son, where two of the most talented, gifted, and important Jedi enter the arena! The force is not a superpower!”. They want to escape from the sand planet you know from the trailer, so they go to an abondened ship which just stands there for years, fully operational without anyone stealing it (the ship you know from the rey memory, when her parents leave the planet). She was already alone. One of the most important plots in the film is Luke’s flying ability, which is enhanced by his willingness to listen to Obi-Wan’s Force instructions. After the fall of the empire, he would go on to establish the New Jedi Order and eventually serve as its Grand Master. She didn’t earn the skills to fly it—or rather, if she did, we were not shown or told that she did. In Empire, Luke has lost a hand and basically thinks he's going to die unless he joins the Dark Side, so he decides to probably die. Abandoned by her family at 5 years old on Jakku, a desert planet. His victory is a moral one, where he chooses to fall rather than join Vader. She says no. Press J to jump to the feed. In sum then, earning and foreshadowing are vital points in the development of any character. Throughout the series Luke is shown studying under Jedi Masters; even if he is never a good student (failing to raise the X-Wing, he says ‘I can’t, it’s too big’—something we’ll never hear Rey say), Luke struggles to learn. Abalada por sua linhagem Sith e pelas várias instâncias de raiva influencidas pelo lado sombrio, Rey retornou a Ahch-To na nave de Kylo, com a intenção … We simply must assume the Force is head over heels in love with her. He earned his power, through training and sacrifice and suffering. (Watching the movie, at least we have Daisy Ridley, who is not boring to look at.). I hate how the sequel trilogy has undermined and unraveled the original trilogy more than I hate the sequel trilogy for its fan-fic characters like MaRey Sue. And that right there is why Luke is by far the better written character. She is not an everywoman. On the Falcon, Obi-Wan blinded Luke, forcing him to rely on the Force to guide his actions to block the blaster bolts. His victory is, again, a moral victory where he refused to take that final step in executing an unarmed Vader. And through trial and error he totally earns his kick-butt scene in Return of the Jedi, when he warns Jabba not to underestimate him, and then promptly destroys every last bad guy in that desert. After dueling his former apprentice on Mustafar, Obi-Wan took Anakin’s lightsaber and kept it on Tatooine for nearly two decades. The situations he faced helped shape his burgeoning character. Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide.It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here. But somehow Papa Palpatine didn’t do this with all of the hundreds of ships that he Force Lightning’d out of the sky?? Out of the previous TIE explosion an unharmed Kylo ren walks out. Welcome to the forums! Luke Skywalker (ROTJ) vs. Rey (TLJ) Serious. 2 – Luke has flaws, which serve to make him relatable as a fellow flawed human, 2 – Rey has no known weaknesses or flaws. His story is the classic—and likeable and believable—Hero’s Journey. Thousands of years before his birth, Skywalker appeared in a vision to the Jedi Master Q'Anilia, along with his father Anakin Skywalker (as Darth Vader) and descendant Cade Skywalker, as well as Zayne Carrick; all four of these individuals would later be affected by the Muur Talisman. Disney: To better illuminate the differences between the lynchpins of either trilogy, let’s compare the characters of Luke Skywalker and Rey No-Last-Name a la Me the Anonymous Blogger, by which we shall prove that Rey is the most expensive and glaring example today of lazy writing. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. By Renaldo Matadeen Oct 29, 2019. I argued that Luke from the end of ROTJ could defeat Rey in a fight, he disagreed. 3 – Rey understands BB8 instantly, as if ‘droid’ is a universal language. Unforgiveable. We know from watching Anakin during the clone wars that the dark side is like a drug, the more you use it, the more consumed you are by it. MaRey Sue is my biggest problem right behind brining Palpatine back just to make him act like a idiot and kill him off again to take away Anakin and Lukes accomplishments. The fan suggests that she was grown from Luke’s severed hand, which was cut off in … The situations he faced helped shape his burgeoning character. In place, she is given numerous inexplicable talents, namely the ability to master anything immediately, without training and practice. 4 – Luke needs Han to save him—which was realistic, 4 – Rey saves Finn, steals the Falcon, and then gets Han killed (Major minus points right there), 5 – Luke is willing to learn the ways of the force, to train under Obi and then Yoda, 5 – Rey just knows how to use the Force, because that’s easier (aka lazy writing). As any writer worth her weight in paper knows, your characters must earn their power or authority to win the respect of insightful readers. Why was she such a threat because she's Palp's granddaughter where as Palp's son is not threat at all? Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures Even Maz Kanata, after asking Han about Rey’s origins in The Force Awakens , took an interest in Rey. No matter how annoying Uncle Owen was (‘You can waste time with your friends when your chores are done’) Luke loved him. Why would he just randomly temporarily stun them?? Here it is, the ‘Everyone Loves a Good Comparison’ Comparison List. And Luke is rewarded for his moral integrity by being proven right about the good in Vader, with Vader turning on his master to protect his child. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. 1 – Luke Skywalker (herein known as Luke) was introduced during a critical period in his psychological and personal development. Over and over again Rey wins through power/skill she doesn't really earn. Disney took the fantastically-written and iconic Luke Skywalker and cloned him. Star Wars 9 The Rise of Skywalker will see Rey’s parents revealed as Luke Skywalker and Palpatine’s daughter, according to a new fan theory. But that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? — In-game description Rey Skywalker is a Legendary Appearance for Rey in DICE's Star Wars Battlefront II. That’s bogus, man! She is sheev's granddaughter, which definitely excuses all of this. If you are experiencing any problems or have any issues, please use the report function or do not hesitate to contact our moderators directly. her losing focus didn't cause her to lose her grip on it, but rather do more effort consuming powerful lightning!? Luke Skywalker isa maincharacter in the Star Wars franchise. It's like if Paris decided to bulldoze a part of Notre Dame in order to build the 2024 Olympic Village. “Luke worried that the Emperor’s spirit or maybe himself or whatever is coming for her, does the only thing he knows to do, hides her away, and removes himself from the Force as not to be used as a method to get to her. 0 wins (0%) Luke Skywalker Luke Skywalker: 1.1 K: Darth Maul Maul: team class: 1.1 K: 4 wins (100%) Rey Rey: 449: Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) Sheev Palpatine: 15 M: team class: 15 M: Battle options. The vision also showed Karness Muur, hundreds of Rakghouls, and a burning … As the respective protagonists of the sequel and original trilogies, there are numerous obvious parallels between the two characters.Chief among them is they are both descendants of dark side users. O espírito de Luke Skywalker comunicou-se com Rey, convencendo a ela a enfrentar seu avô, Darth Sidious. Rey never earned her powers. Download Luke Skywalker and Rey Wallpaper for free in 3840x2400 Resolution for your screen.You Can Set it as Lockscreen or Wallpaper of Windows 10 PC, Android Or Iphone Mobile or Mac Book Background Image Luke Skywalker is a fictional character and the main protagonist of the original film trilogy of the Star Wars franchise created by George Lucas.Portrayed by Mark Hamill, Luke first appeared in Star Wars (1977), and he returned in The Empire Strikes Back (1980) and Return of the Jedi (1983). Lol it’s obviously Rey. She didn’t earn the right to fly it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Durant l'épisode VIII, Les Derniers Jedi, une scène qui explique les vraies raisons de Luke de sortir de son exil et de renouer avec la Force. So I thought: let's ask the peeps that know msot about fictional characters beating the shit out of each other. The other two victories are moral victories. Reddit user Vadrr21 has come up with the idea that Rey is actually a clone of Luke Skywalker. Through his adventures and suffering, he grows as a character. It's not a victory, but a failure. ? Finn is screaming at rey that they got chewie (in the transporter ship). Because he is boastful and occasionally snarky, and takes a while picking up on things, we can easily relate to him. Yay? She can do anything and doesn’t even whine when the galaxy throws a bucket of wrenches at her, 3 – Luke needs a translator to understand R2-D2. Luke Skywalker é o protagonista da trilogia original da série Star Wars, faz participação em Star Wars: O Despertar da Força em Star Wars: Os Últimos Jedi. Rey holding Luke Skywalker's blue lightsaber in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi.' The awe with which they found themselves in their journey, and the adorkable quality they had, where they made friends purely because of their friendly nature, made Luke and Rey the perfect protagonists to start things off with. What even is this trilogy. He’s a secret prince! She is already perfect, which is fine, but unrealistic and boring, from a writers’ perspective, anyway. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Luke, on the other hand, is an everyman. . No. For writers, the world is our oyster. She screams chewies name since she thought he was in there and now dead (he is not). Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. She has nothing to lose. Take what you read here with a grain of... salt. We try to maintain a civil, welcoming space with a diversity of (salty) points of view. Except for the sarlacc, which was busy eating another bad guy who actually survived. Then, in Empire, after years of training alone and training under Yoda, he loses, badly, in his first real duel. Luke's victory is not one tied to his power or his skill as a Jedi. You begin to recognize well-written scripts and characters. Some people like to point out that Rey is a better character because she does the rescuing, whereas Luke is constantly in need of being rescued. Welcome to r/saltierthancrait! 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. Simple tips and links for new writers and self-publishers. ‘Get away from him, you filth!’ is perhaps the most realistic line in the entire book, and it shows how much he has grown as a character. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. The ability to foreshadow, and to do it expertly, is the mark of an accomplished writer. That jerk at your day job now seems powerless to offend you, because through your writer’s eyes he is an object lesson in Antagonist 101. Rey is like Samwise Gamgee; she’s almost too perfect. As a writer, odds are you noticed the vast differences in the way Luke Skywalker and Rey are written, character-wise. 1 – Luke Skywalker (herein known as Luke) was introduced during a critical period in his psychological and personal development. Anakin Skywalker carried this blue-bladed Jedi weapon – a replacement for his first lightsaber -- throughout the Clone Wars and kept it after he pledged himself to Darth Sidious. Luke has one victory that can be attributed to skill/power, which is basically an extension of a specific lesson already learnt. Sure, she was abandoned when she was like 5, but that gave her 14 years in a wasteland to harden into a self-reliant dynamo. She did not earn the power, the right, to survive an encounter with a trained Sith. Rey is the offspring of Luke and Palpatine’s daughter to be named. Bro you obviously don't understand. People say it’s because of her ancestry to Palpatine but Luke Skywalker’s dad was literally DARTH VADER/ANAKIN. The son of famous Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, he was left on Tatooine with his aunt and uncle after the fall of the Jedi Order. Please familiarize yourself with this post for the rules and guidelines of this sub before participating. Re: ESB Luke Skywalker vs. ROS Kylo Ren on April 25th 2020, 1:54 pm Pre-ESB Luke could shake star destroyers with the Force with the backlash of one of … Only they didn’t stop there. On the flip side, you also notice how poorly written some of them are, so that this power of writerly perception can, on occasion, ruin your move-going experience. Don’t think I’m simply dismissing Disney. The TIE eats the ground, both wings lost, the cockpit rolls ar full speed over the ground, crashes into a wall and explodes. Maul vs Rey & Darth Maul vs Rey & Darth Sidious people say it ’ s dad was Darth... 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